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New NFA rules as fo 31July2009!

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Old 3 July 2009, 17:14   #1 (permalink)
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Default New NFA rules as fo 31July2009!

Mungkin sudah ada yang tau, saya sekedar mengingatkan sajadari email teman di broker America.

What you need to do in the USA (for NFA brokers) as of July 31, 2009:
* Can't have hedging positions, it means OCO orders ( One cancels the other)
* FIFO (first in first out) system: order that opened first must be closed first.
* Can't have stop and profit target for order with the same lot-size.


Sepertinya makin sulit melakukan strategi2 komplex. Apalagi buat trader2 yang mahir.
Konsekuensinya broker2 yang member NFA, mengalihkan keluar dari America.

Teman2 apakah ada yang mau kasih pandangan, Bagaimana keadaan USD setelah peraturan tsb berlaku?

Kalo menurut saya nih, USD akan terus berkurang nilainya. Siap siap saja pasang posisi BUY pada EU, GU, AU, dst. Dan SELL pada UJ, UC, dst.
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Old 7 July 2009, 18:37   #2 (permalink)
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wah knp jd ketat gt ya?? btw broker2 mana aj yg bakal kaya gt bro? gw nubie bgt soal satu ini
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Old 7 July 2009, 20:33   #3 (permalink)
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kalau ag lihat di forum tetangga,
aturan itu hanya untuk broker yang berada dibawah aturan NFA (usa).
Broker yang tidak dibawah aturan NFA tidak kena aturan itu, contohnya yang dibawah otoritas UK atau RU (moga2 nggak salah)
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sebenarnya apa sih yang melatarbelakangi NFA sampai ngeluarin peraturan baru ini?
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at the end, traders will always find the way...
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Mungkin sudah ada yang tau, saya sekedar mengingatkan sajadari email teman di broker America.

What you need to do in the USA (for NFA brokers) as of July 31, 2009:
* Can't have hedging positions, it means OCO orders ( One cancels the other)
* FIFO (first in first out) system: order that opened first must be closed first.
* Can't have stop and profit target for order with the same lot-size.


Sepertinya makin sulit melakukan strategi2 komplex. Apalagi buat trader2 yang mahir.
Konsekuensinya broker2 yang member NFA, mengalihkan keluar dari America.

Teman2 apakah ada yang mau kasih pandangan, Bagaimana keadaan USD setelah peraturan tsb berlaku?

Kalo menurut saya nih, USD akan terus berkurang nilainya. Siap siap saja pasang posisi BUY pada EU, GU, AU, dst. Dan SELL pada UJ, UC, dst.
bagi saya pribadi.. 3 aturan di atas tidak akan terlalu berpengaruh bagi saya
- aturan 1 & 2 tidak masalah bagi kita yang biasa menerapkan strategi 1 posisi saja (buy only ato sell only)
- adapun aturan 3 yang tidak mengijinkan penggunaan SL dan TP ... ini masih bisa di akalin dengan penggunaan EA untuk membuat hidden TP dan SL (asal broker tersebut menggunakan MT4)

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Manfaatin aja OCO (One Cancel Other): kalau order buy loss, langsung timpa ama order sell, otomatis order buynya terclose dan yang jalan order sellnya, vise versa
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diterapinnya mulai kapan tuh? 1 agustus?
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Old 28 July 2009, 10:35   #9 (permalink)
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NFA tuh sebenernya tujuannya melindungi trader, melindungi broker atau sebenernya mau ngebunuh dua-dua sih? Lha wong sama sekali gak ada yang diuntungkan dengan adanya aturan-aturan itu.

Ya trader ya broker yang di bawah NFA, semuanya pada pusing karena ulah bodohnya NFA yang ndak jelas juntrungannya.
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terkadang terlalu cerdas memang bisa melakukan hal yang bego banget karena ude binun mana antara hal yang cerdas banget ama yang bego banget
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